i don't know if they are correct. they haven't -- like i said, i got it from all different sources because nobody in the government would tell me anything. so i got it from the internet. i got it from the people i talked to. i got it from all different kind of plapss and put it together until i found something that i half way believe, but not from the government. >> candy, you know, bob bear who i think we're having trouble establishing contact with, you know, we talked to him before about this and an active cia officers, undercover cia officers can testify -- i mean, can, there are ways to do it that they won't be exposed if they appear in front of members of congress. there is a secure room, i believe, they can go to. there is, you know, transcripts that can be refacted. there are ways to do that. >> there have been ways in the past. the intelligence community, as you can imagine, is reluctant to do that for active cia members.